Showing posts with label Tornielli. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tornielli. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 13, 2011

Le Figaro Says "Integristes" Are Reconciling with Rome

Edit: at least this anti-Catholic paper isn't as hostile as the usually dependable Tornielli. Integraliste is much more accurate and appealing than "Lefebrian".

Une réunion historique doit se tenir mercredi matin à Rome entre le Saint-Siège et Mgr Fellay, leader des lefebvristes, laquelle pourrait aboutir dans les semaines qui viennent à leur réintégration dans l'Église catholique.

Au Vatican, les rendez-vous les plus importants ne sont pas les plus spectaculaires. Mardi matin, dans les bureaux les plus discrets de la cité, ceux de la Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi, va se tenir une rencontre absolument...

Link to Le Fig...

H/t AQ...

Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Cardinal Kasper Denies Suggestions of Schism Brewing in Germany

Editor: Cardinal Kasper also made controversial and encouraging statements earlier last week when he said that more people Communicated with the right intention before the Council than after translated here on Catholic Church Conservation.

The former Curial Cardinal considers the contention of Italian Vaticanista Tornielli about a threatened schism as a "hypothetical construction"

Bonn (kath.net/KAP) Cardinal Walter Kasper has rejected speculations about a threatened Church schism in Germany. Corresponding notions which appeared in "Focus" are also supposed to be in an alleged Vatican circulating dossier, which the long standing President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity, according to a report in the "Zeit" enclosure "Christ and World" this Tuesday, had described as "conspiracy theory" and "hypothetical constructions built up, combined with bits of information and other inadequacies."

The Cardinal explained the motives of the conspiracy theorists: "it seems that they want to breed mistrust and provoke a schism." The Munich news magazine had reported on Pentecost that there is an unofficial dossier circulating in the Vatican, which suggests that there is a schism in the Catholic Church in Germany. Behind this romantic current are hidden church societies, individuals from the German Bishops Conference, Catholic politicians and parts of the Jesuit Order.

The substantiation for this report is according to research from "Christ and World" a blog report by the mostly well-informed Vatican journalist of the paper "La Stampa", Andrea Tornielli. He reported on June 8th that some in the Vatican believe that in the foreground of the Papal Visit there will be a concentrated action of reformist forces in German Catholicism.

Kasper speaks thereon, that there is in his opinion no centrally controlled action of German Catholics for schism. The actions which the alleged dossier describe, whereabouts the open letter of Catholic politicians from January and the memorandum of Theologians in February were, according to the Cardinal, individual actions and not centrally coordinated. The Cardinal doesn't know of a collaboration which according to "Christ and World" has any direction from Vatican circles: "Who should that have been? I know no one here who would do such a thing."

Kasper understands with a view to the Catholic Church in Germany on the great interest for the Papal Visit in September. "There is a great, till now mostly silent majority, to whom one or the other critical questions are appealing, who otherwise are fed up with the other side and simply want to be Catholic," he said.

Link, kath.net...

Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Pope Warns of the Sins of Sodom and Gomorrah

Editor: The following is a google of Vaticanist Tornielli's account of Pope Benedict XVI's address during his general audience today.  If there are but ten good men left, God is good enough to work from that to save the city of man from utter destruction.  It is not only a warning, but a sign of love and healing.

Evil "is not acceptable," but "the Lord does not want the death of the wicked, but that he be converted and live; his desire is always to forgive, save, create, transform evil into good." This was explained by Benedict XVI during the general audience today, commenting on the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah, two cities where rampant immorality, for the sake of which Abraham prayed to God begging him not to wear his punishment in just the name of those who lived there.
 
With his prayers, "Abraham is giving voice to the desire of God, which is not to destroy, but to save Sodom, to give life to the repentant sinner." The need 'to find right men in the city "is becoming less demanding and ten in the end it will be enough to save the entire population." But "there were not ten righteous in Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities were destroyed." And this is because "the town were closed on an all-encompassing and numbing evil, without even a few innocents from which to transform evil into good."
 
"It is not the punishment that should be eliminated - said Benedict XVI - but sin, that rejection of God and the love that brings in itself the punishment." It serves, however, "a transformation from within, a few good holding on, a beginning from which to transform evil into good, hatred into love, vengeance into forgiveness." For this the righteous shall be in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham and continually repeated: "Perhaps it will ...."
 
"There - Ratzinger has made clear - is in reality ill that there must be the seed of good that can heal and restore life." "It's a word," he added spontaneously to the Pope, addressed "to us" so that "in our town is the seed of good, we do not all because there are only ten righteous people to live and survive in our cities and to save us from the bitterness inside which is the absence of God in the real sick of Sodom and Gomorrah, the seed of good is not. "
 

Hearing these words of the Pope came to me immediately in mind the connection with the incident, sad and dramatic, the Genoese priest accused of abusing children by offering them in exchange for cocaine.

Thursday, May 12, 2011

'Universae Ecclesiae" is Out: Seminarians Must Learn the Traditional Mass

It is to be assumed that the Old Liberal German Bishops also can't wait for the expected clarification from Rome.
The Mass of All Ages



(kreuz.net, Vatikan) The Instruction 'Universae Ecclesiae' to the Motu Proprio 'Summorum Pontificum' isn't slap in the faces of the Old Believers, nor is it perfect.

This was reported by Father John Zuhlsdorf from a well-known Weblog 'wdtprs.com'.

The priest received the three page long document, which will be addressed by journalists at ten o'clock tomorrow.

He will honor the moratorium till noon.

The Rights of Traditionalists Before the Bishops

Vatican Andrea Tornielli went cleverly to work.

He published today on his website the first contents of the document.

According to that 'Universae Ecclesiae' underscores the rights of the Traditionalists against the Old Liberal Bishops.

The shepherds must not obstruct the freedom of the Traditionalists by limiting rules or qualifications.

For example there are no specifications about the number of faithful necessary for a group of Traditionalists to have a Mass.

In any case, the priest must have a solid understanding of Latin for the celebration of the Old Mass.

That about closes out the ninety percent of the priests who've been educated in the system of seminaries run into the abyss by the Bishops for the last thirty years.

Even the Easter Triduum

In the new generation of priests it will be different. Because the Clarification desires that the celebration of the Old Mass will be a part of priestly education again.

It is to be expected that the German speaking Bishops will not be kept out of Rome by any further schismatic acts.

The Clarification also provides for the celebration of the Easter Triduum, in so far as there is a Traditionalist group.

As recently as last Good Friday neo-Conservative Bishop Fraz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst of Limburg refused to allow the Traditionalists in his Diocese to celebrate the Old Liturgy.

Finally the Papal Commission 'Ecclesia Dei' explains Tornielli will in the future be a clearing house for receiving alleged or real conflicts.

Link to original, kreuz.net...